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By Peat
#1193
I completely missed this one and I have to say, on first glance, I'm somewhat puzzled they even mentioned they were using a sorting tool. Whether they use a sorting tool or not seems none of our business, as does the nature of it.

If they were using an evaluation tool that'd be different, maybe, but sorting?

I'll happily sign up for being hardline on keeping AI out of the creative spaces and this still seems mildly absurd.
cupiscent wrote: April 10th, 2024, 23:03
CameronJohnston wrote:I bet it's not been a good few days for the AR staff. I think one of the saddest things to come to light is that it might be the last open submissions call you will see - the flood of AI-generated bilge is making it unfeasable unless you throw an awful lot of eyes and a lot of hours at it. Clarkesworld subs have, I think, tripled and AI-crap takes up the bulk of it.
Yes, I sadly think you're right. I remain thoroughly baffled as to what the submitters of AI bilge think they're going to get out of this (because the money in publishing is so good??) but the people shouting about the AR scenario that they should "just pay more slush readers" seem to also have a very weird understanding of how much money is just lying around in publishing...
I'd love to hear from those who do that on what. My guesses are

a) It takes so little time to generate that it's still worth a shot sending out to try and get some money (at least, it is if you're an optimist with time)

b) ego - the bragging rights of having your name there, even if you didn't do it, is irresistible for some.
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By cupiscent
#1194
Peat wrote: April 12th, 2024, 17:55 b) ego - the bragging rights of having your name there, even if you didn't do it, is irresistible for some.
This is the one I just totally don't understand. I mean... you didn't do it. How could that possibly feel good?
By Peat
#1201
cupiscent wrote: April 12th, 2024, 22:50
Peat wrote: April 12th, 2024, 17:55 b) ego - the bragging rights of having your name there, even if you didn't do it, is irresistible for some.
This is the one I just totally don't understand. I mean... you didn't do it. How could that possibly feel good?
I've never really understood the impulse either.

But think of every teenager who's claimed to have sex when they're still a virgin, or person who claim to be war veterans who never heard a shot fired in anger, or who made up a lie about a great thing their family had done etc.etc. For some people, the joy of being seen to have accomplished something beats having actually accomplished it. The regard, the attention... it's not exactly an admirable human trait, but it's a common enough one.
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By Magnus
#1267
I think it's just people deluded into thinking that prompting generative models is the same thing as writing it yourself. These people existed before. They're the ones who believe that coming up with an idea for a book is the same thing as writing a book.

If you're a writer, you probably know them. They're the ones who casually make claims that they 'have a book in them' or something of the sorts when you mention you write fiction. And if you're an editor, you most certainly know them. They're the ones who are completely incapable of listening to their editors because they think as long as they write the story that is awesome in their head, everyone who dares suggest changes just 'doesn't understand' the story.

The only difference is that now they have a tool catering specifically to their delusion. I think many of them genuinely believe themselves writers.
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By Peat
#1329
Oops just realised I missed the Angry Robot window. Missed it by a couple of hours too. Although a little shruggy. Very long shot.

On the plus side, I do have a finished draft zero.

On the minus side again, I have a new idea I just can't figure out how to start.
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By CameronJohnston
#1351
Ah well - then it's time to polish up that manuscript and send it off to agents! Might come back to them again via a different route.

As for the new idea, when I get stuck with an Idea I take a look at the characters and see if one pops up that works.
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By BrandonPilcher
#1496
Scribbled out another short last night (it's a little upward of 2.2k words). Set on the East African coast 100,000 years ago, it's a simple tale of a Paleolithic huntress and her tame saber-toothed cat taking on some Deep Ones from H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos (his body of work is public domain, right?). This is another one I'm hoping to get published after a little editing.
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By CameronJohnston
#1597
I'm coming to the end of the first draft of this new novel - just need to leap back and stich in a couple of chapters to get me from the end of the middle to the beginning of the end sequence. 8k words or so maybe. Then it's swiftly onto a bit of a polish before I look at anything structural.

Then I will delve back into a low budget fantasy/horror screenplay I had begun a while back.